G Davies Infill Plane

Some time ago I got and infill from an LJ friend Jamie asking me if I wanted an infill plane that needed some love. Of course I couldn’t resist and a short time later I received the package in the mail.

 

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Now it is true he told me it needed some love, and he made it a special note to add a lot of love, but I didn’t think he meant this:

 

 

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But OK, challenge excepted.

 

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It turned out the infill was held in with ground off screws. A bit of a challenge to remove.

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The infill seems to be English Beech covered with some kind of plastic. A quick interent search on the G. Davies stamped on it brought me to a plane maker in Birmingham England some were around 1821-1876. I also read he sold out to Marples.

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W. Marples marked on the chip breaker.

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Thankfully my son-in-law is a welder, and with some prodding, I convinced him he could weld cast. He did a little research, learned to pre-heat and slow down the cooling, and what a great job he did.

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I replaced the screws with some brass pins. And here is the results on some Ash.

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So I ordered up some epoxy and put the pins in permanent. 

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If I find more information on the maker (G. Davies) I will post it here. Also Any information on what the plastic like substance might be would be much appreciated.

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Sargent #409 with a Brass name plate.

I saw a posting on Ebay that looked like this:

Besides the upside down lever cap, something looked different. I thought the logo looked brass, so I contacted the seller. These Sargent planes with brass inserts were produced in limited runs sometime between 1927 and 1939. I put a max bid and won it for the exact max amount. How lucky is that? This is the first time I’ve seen one on eBay, and there were 3 at the same time, all different sellers. Talk about coincidence. A #407 had a starting bid of $270 (it did not sell) and a 414 that I lost the bid on. I wasn’t as aggressive on the 414, but glad I got the #409. It’ll fit in my collection well. The #414 had the brass inlay in the sole.

You’ll note some of the inserts were rectangular and some were oval.

Here are the #407 and #414 off ebay just for documentation.

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And finally here is my #409

Quickly Identify your hand plane.

Stanley made:

That lateral adjuster on a Stanley made plane.

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After 1885 when Stanley added the lateral adjuster, All Stanley Bailey and Stanley Bedrock planes had this style adjuster.

Sargent made:

That lateral adjuster on a Sargent made plane.

Sargent 1910 and before:

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The Sargent twisted lateral had 2 different guides,

The type 2 (horseshoe style on the left) and type 3 (bent type on the right)  

 

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Sargent 1911 and After: (Including Hercules)

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Millers Falls made:

That lateral adjuster on a Millers Falls made plane.

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Ohio Tools made:

That lateral adjuster on a Ohio Tools made plane.

 

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Early Lateral

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Later Lateral

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Stanley made Defiance:

That lateral adjuster on a Stanley made Defiance plane.

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Another telltale sign of the defiance plane is the flat sided reddish tote.

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Union made:

That lateral adjuster of a Union looks like the early twisted Sargent, but with a washer type guide like the Ohio Tools or Stanley.

 

Fulton or Fulton Tool Company.

The problem with being on a quest for knowledge is the endless circles you often get stuck in, and the off roads that follow. I’m always looking for information on older Sargent hand planes. So recently I bought a hand plane off ebay that is an obvious early Sargent 409. It’s got Rosewood, a type 4 base, with a type 3 frog, and a “Fulton Tool Co” cutter.

The type 4 base dates it to 1911 to 1918.

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I know Sargent made most of the Fulton planes for Sears, so I wanted to see what they were.

So off I go to find out what “Fulton Tool Co” is. My original research brought me to one of 2 conclusions. The first possibility was the Fulton Tool Company was a steel manufacture that made tools and accessories along with plane irons. The second was Fulton Tool Com were early Fulton planes.

Further research showed all of the planes I could find with Fulton Tool Co cutters seemed to be early Sargent’s. So could these just be Fulton? Was the Sears branded Fulton and Fulton Tool Company the same?

Even further research shows that the Craftsman brand came about in 1927, whereas Sears started selling Fulton in either 1905 or 1908. This lead me to believe it was possible that Fulton Tool Company could have been the early branding, and after Sears started to market Craftsman, Fulton became a secondary line.

This theory was further complicated when I bought a United Hardware and Tool Company catalog reprint from 1925. This shows the following photos.

The Logo

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And the hand planes

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So its fairly obvious that in 1925 these planes were NOT Sargent made. But could they still be the Sears rebranded?

So do I need to start finding early Craftsman catalogs to work this out? According to this site, (http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/craftsman-early-tools.html#fulton) In the pre-Craftsman days, Fulton appeared to be the most popular brand offered by the Sears for tools such as saws, axes, planes, chisels, hammers, pliers, and many other items. References to Fulton tools appear in Sears catalogs at least as early as 1908, with illustrations showing either "Fulton" or "Fulton Tool Co." on the tools.

There is some further interesting history (http://www.searsarchives.com/history/index.htm) about Sears.

So at least for right now, I’m going to go on the assumption that either  "Fulton Tool Co."  or  "Fulton" Branded tools where marketed rebranded tools for Sears. "Fulton Tool Co." probably existed prior to 1927. To be determined will be when Sargent stopped manufacturing them. Since later model Fulton’s are made by Sargent as well, they must have won the contract back at some point.

It’s known that Sears put the contract out to bid for the tools, I don’t know the details or derations of the contracts, so that’s some more information to be gathered.

I hope you found this interesting, and please contact me if you have ANY information regarding anything about Sargent hand planes.

Here are some other examples I’ve managed to dig up. The are just internet found pictures.

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Pictures of a Fulton as shown in the United Hardware and Tool Company catalog.

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According to Roger Smith in PATENTED TRANSITIONAL & METALLIC PLANES IN AMERICA Fulton was made by Sargent except for 1925, and he states in 1925 they were made by  United Hardware and Tool Company

 

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Plane restores, expect the unexpected.

I’ve gone through a few plane restores in the past. As time has passed I’ve learned a respect for the history and patina of some old and rare planes, but bringing planes back from the brink is still a lot of fun for me.

I don’t really have a good before picture of this plane, simply because it was never intended to be restored. My goal for this plane was to see if I could salvage enough beech out of the middle of the deteriorated mess to use for repairs on future plane restores.

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It came from an antique store. I got this whole pile for close to nothing.

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So the first thing I did was pop the handle off. It came off fairly easy and what was left came out in one piece. My next move was to run it through the planer. Starting very thin, I wanted to save as much of the beech as I could.

After the very first pass, my intentions started to change. I wish I’d taken a few more pictures along the way, but you can see the results.

I cut about a half inch off the front. I’ll save it because the name is on it. I wish it could have been saved in place, but I was very surprised I didn’t have to take a lot more off.

Its hard to make out, but I believe its Randall and Cook, Albany NY. There is not much online about them other then a few other vintage planes for sale. Everything I found was wood bodies, so I’m assuming they were early.

The cutter took a little work, but its a Maulson Bros. iron and is pretty hard. It was wedged in so hard I had to drive it out with a punch, which made sharpening even that much harder.

The plane could be put back into service, but I doubt I will ever use it. I think it deserves a rest and it will look nice with the rest of the wooden rescues I have collected.

2014 Hand tool Calendar

If you haven’t ordered your Hand Tool Calendar, your missing out.

 

The unofficial 2014 LumberJocks Hand Tool Calendar is done and available for order.

Here is the order link:

http://www.zazzle.com/lumberjocks_hand_tool_calendar_2014-158717355717941769

 

Kudo’s to Mos and JayT on another fine job.

Sargent type 8 Bench Plane – 400 series

This is a place holder for the type 8.

Types: Type 1, Type 2 and 3, The 540x Series,  Type 4, Type 5, Type 6, Type 7, Type 8.

Keep in mind, Sargent type study is a confusing work in progress. Please email me your example and expect things to change from time to time.  All dates are from Dave Heckel’s book unless otherwise stated.

  • Its got a type6 or 7 cutter  (1950-1960. 1950-53 – Hercules)
  • A type 6 or 7 cap.                (1950-1960. 1950-53 – Hercules)
  • two piece yoke
  • Hardwood knob and tote
  • No Plane number on base
  • Steel knob and tote nuts ??
  • Steel Adjuster knob ??
  • Made In USA stamped behind knob

Sargent type 7 Bench Plane – 400 series

Types: Type 1, Type 2 and 3, The 540x Series,  Type 4, Type 5, Type 6, Type 7, Type 8.

Keep in mind, Sargent type study is a confusing work in progress. Please email me your example and expect things to change from time to time.  All dates are from Dave Heckel’s book unless otherwise stated.

I’m going to call this one a type 7 #408 1942-1950

  • Its got a type 5 cutter  (1942-1950)
  • A type 5 cap.                ((1942-1950)
  • two piece yoke
  • A mahogany knob and tote.
  • Plane number not on bed
  • Steel knob and tote nuts
  • Steel Adjuster knob
  • “Made in USA”t stamped behind frog

Type 5 cap

Note the difference in the base from the type 6.

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Here is the type 6 and type 7 side by side. The type 7 is on the left.

Note the type 7 is 1/2” longer.

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And yet another example. The frog and lever cap put this #418 in the same era, but as you can see, its a different base.

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  • Its got a type 5 cutter  (1942-1950)
  • A type 5 cap.                ((1942-1950)
  • two piece yoke
  • A hardwood knob and tote.
  • Plane number not on bed
  • Steel knob and tote nuts
  • Steel Adjuster knob
  • “Made in USA”t stamped behind knob


Sargent Type 6 Bench Plane – 400 series

Types: Type 1, Type 2 and 3, The 540x Series,  Type 4, Type 5, Type 6, Type 7, Type 8.

Keep in mind, Sargent type study is a confusing work in progress. Please email me your example and expect things to change from time to time.  All dates are from Dave Heckel’s book unless otherwise stated.

  • Its got a type 5 cutter  (1942-1950)
  • A type 4 cap.                ((1919-1942)
  • One piece yoke
  • A mahogany knob and tote.
  • Plane number behind frog
  • Brass knob and tote nuts
  • Brass Adjuster knob
  • Sargent stamped behind knob

And here is what seems a little different. Its got a brass cutter adjuster knob, and brass nuts on the knob and tote.
Typical for this time frame? Lets take a poll.

Here is a Sargent #411 I’m also going to classify as a type 6. Note the dif

differences however, so one of these may be wrong.

  • Its got a type 5 cutter  (1942-1950)
  • A type 4 cap.                ((1919-1942)
  • One piece yoke
  • A mahogany knob and tote.
  • Plane number in front
  • Brass knob and tote nuts
  • Brass Adjuster knob
  • Sargent stamped behind knob

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Sargent type 5 Bench Plane – 400 series

This is a place holder for the type 5.

Types: Type 1, Type 2 and 3, The 540x Series,  Type 4, Type 5, Type 6, Type 7, Type 8.

Keep in mind, Sargent type study is a confusing work in progress. Please email me your example and expect things to change from time to time.  All dates are from Dave Heckel’s book unless otherwise stated.

  • Its got a type 4 cutter  (1919-1942)
  • A type 4 cap.                (1919-1942)
  • One or two piece yoke ??
  • knob and tote ??
  • Plane number on base ??
  • Steel or brass knob and tote nuts ??
  • Steel or Brass Adjuster knob ??
  • Sargent stamped behind knob ??
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