Determining a Sargent Bench Plane vintage. Type 2 & 3.

Types: Type 1, Type 2 and 3, The 540x Series,  Type 4, Type 5, Type 6, Type 7, Type 8.

A few years ago I got hooked on Sargent bench planes. It started when I picked up a #15, not even knowing what I had bought. I paid $5 for it. I’ve been buying these, not so much as users (although they make good users) but as a collector. If you’re into Sargent planes, you know David Heckel wrote the book on Sargent planes. Its the closest thing to a type study I can find, but I found it pretty confusing at times.

My plan is to change and add to this blog series whenever I dig up new info. Please feel free to contribute, send any photos or comments to timetestedtools at hotmail dot com or post below. It’ll be under constant construction and I don’t plan to try to write it all at once, so stop back often.

Some other good references come from here   http://lumberjocks.com/topics/47190

What I would like to do, is try to eliminate some of the confusion, and through the course of time, see if I can come up with some additional information not found in the book.

If you don’t have the book, I suggest you buy it. Its relatively inexpensive and covers a lot more than the bench planes. At this point, this blog will only be in regards to the 400 series of bench planes which includes the 540x series as well..

Unlike all Stanley type studies, for some reason Heckel did a separate study on the irons and another on the caps, which seems to add to my confusion, at least at first. So you’ll need to match dates, not types of these with the bench planes. For example a type 1 iron, is typically on a type 1 and type 2 400 series plane.

Another form of confusion is the way Sargent did the type 2 and 3 laterals. The patent date is the same for both the first and second type lateral. They were issued the same day Feb 3rd 1891. So they may have been used in tandem, which gets confusing. For example, even though the 5400 series went to 1909, the 5400 series all had horseshoe laterals, even though the 400 series went from a type 2 (horseshoe lateral) to a type 3 (pivot lateral). Note both have the twisted end.

Here is the horseshoe Lateral. The first one they used and the second photo is the pivot lateral, the second lateral  they used.

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The type 1 .

It should be fairly easy to recognize. Its a pre-lateral. They were made from 1887-1890   (here is my #1)

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Screws are round headed.

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Marked Sargent Co. and number behind the frog

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Brass cutter adjuster is solid brass and right handed threads.

No logo on the cap.

Rosewood for knob and tote.

At this point I don’t believe any of these were corrugated, so if you have a corrugated pre-lateral, I’d like to hear about it.

The type 2.

These were made from 1891-1901

Type 2 will have the horseshoe Lateral. The first lateral they used.

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The bottom plane is the casting off what I believe is a type 2 #422, but this configuration was used until about 1906.

The top plane, a type 3.

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Types 1,2 and 3 typically had the number and a dot on the back of the cap.

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Brass cutter adjuster is solid brass and right handed threads.

No logo on the cap.

Rosewood for knob and tote.

The type 3.

These were made from 1891-1909

Yes I know, confusing. Both the type 2 and type 3 start the same year, but the type 2 ends earlier.

And the pivot lateral, the second one they used.

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The type 3 may have a solid brass cutter adjuster or one with the steel insert

And some reprint comparisons from HMikes thread.

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And my attempt at a timeline.

Dates 400 Series Bench Planes Type Lateral Cutter Type Cap Wood type Corrugated Notes
1887 Type 1 None Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1888 Type 1 None Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1889 Type 1 None Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1890 Type 1 None Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1891 Type 2 & 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1892 Type 2 & 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1893 Type 2 & 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1894 Type 2 & 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1895 Type 2 & 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1896 Type 2 & 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1897 Type 2 & 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1898 Type 2 & 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1899 Type 2 & 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1900 Type 2 & 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1901 Type 2 & 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 1 Type 1 rosewood
1902 Type 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 2 Type 2 rosewood
1903 Type 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 2 Type 2 rosewood
1904 Type 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 2 Type 2 rosewood
1905 Type 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 2 Type 2 rosewood
1906 Type 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 2 Type 2 rosewood
1907 Type 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 2 Type 2 rosewood Started 5400 Cutter adjuster with   steel insert on type 3 only
1908 Type 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 2 Type 2 rosewood 5400 Cutter adjuster with   steel insert on type 3 only
1909 Type 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 2 Type 2 rosewood 5400 Cutter adjuster with   steel insert on type 3 only
1910 Type 3 Type 1 & 2 Type 3 Type 3 East India Mahogany "C"
Dates 400 Series Bench Planes Type Lateral Cutter Type Cap Wood type Corrugated Notes
1911 Type 4 Type 3 Type 3 Type 3 East India Mahogany "C" Type 4 have steel cutter   adjusters
1912 Type 4 Type 3 Type 3 Type 3 East India Mahogany "C"
1913 Type 4 Type 3 Type 3 Type 3 East India Mahogany "C"
1914 Type 4 Type 3 Type 3 Type 3 East India Mahogany "C"
1915 Type 4 Type 3 Type 3 Type 3 East India Mahogany "C"
1916 Type 4 Type 3 Type 3 Type 3 East India Mahogany "C"
1917 Type 4 Type 3 Type 3 Type 3 East India Mahogany "C"
1918 Type 4 Type 3 Type 3 Type 3 East India Mahogany "C"
1919 Type 5 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 East India Mahogany "C"
1920 Type 5 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 East India Mahogany "C"
1921 Type 5 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 East India Mahogany "C"
1922 Type 5 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 East India Mahogany "C"
1923 Type 5 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 East India Mahogany "C"
1924 Type 5 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 East India Mahogany "C"
1925 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1926 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1927 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1928 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1929 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1930 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1931 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1932 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1933 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1934 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1935 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1936 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1937 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1938 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1939 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1940 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C"
1941 Type 6 Type 3 Type 4 Type 4 Any Mahogany "C" My Type 6 has Brass   cutter adjustment nut and Brass knob and tote nuts
Dates 400 Series Bench Planes Type Lateral Cutter Type Cap Wood type Corrugated Notes
1942 Type 7 Type 3 4 & 5 4 & 5 Any Mahogany "C"
1943 Type 7 Type 3 Type 5 Type 5 Any Mahogany "C"
1944 Type 7 Type 3 Type 5 Type 5 Any Mahogany "C"
1945 Type 7 Type 3 Type 5 Type 5 Any Mahogany "C"
1946 Type 7 Type 3 Type 5 Type 5 Any Mahogany "C"
1947 Type 7 Type 3 Type 5 Type 5 Any Mahogany "C"
1948 Type 7a Type 3 Type 5 Type 5 Hardwood "C"
1949 Type 7a Type 3 Type 5 Type 5 Hardwood "C"
1950 Type 7a Type 3 Type 5 & 6 Type 5 & 6 Hardwood "C"
1951 Type 8 Type 3 Type 6 Type 6 Hardwood "C"
1952 Type 8 Type 3 Type 6 Type 6 Hardwood "C"
1953 Type 8 Type 3 Type 6 Type 6 Hardwood "C"
1954 Type 8 Type 3 Hardwood "C"
1955 Type 8 Type 3 Type 7 Type 7 Hardwood "C"
1956 Type 8 Type 3 Type 7 Type 7 Hardwood "C"
1957 Type 8 Type 3 Type 7 Type 7 Hardwood "C"
1958 Type 8 Type 3 Type 7 Type 7 Hardwood "C"
1959 Type 8 Type 3 Type 7 Type 7 Hardwood "C"
1960 Type 8 Type 3 Type 7 Type 7 Hardwood "C"
1961 Type 8
1962 Type 8
1963 Type 8
1964 End of plane production
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3 Responses to Determining a Sargent Bench Plane vintage. Type 2 & 3.

  1. Dave says:

    Wonderful Don I am glad to see you doing this. It makes it so much easier to have your Sargent version of blood and gore.

  2. Pingback: A type 5 Sargent #408 | time tested tools

  3. Nice work. Very helpful on a subject that has minimal information available. Thanks.

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